Esquire has a profile and interview with Teller of Penn & Teller because he’s suing a magician who is selling one of his prized tricks.

The real point of magic, Teller said during those lectures, is “telling a beautiful lie. It lets you see what the world would be like if cause and effect weren’t bound by physics.” It’s the collision between what you know and what you see that provides magic’s greatest spark.

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“Sometimes magic is just someone spending more time on something than anyone else might reasonably expect,” Teller says.

I would love to see him talk one of these days.